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Sheila Hamilton is an author, advocate and radio host. Her book, All the Things We Never Knew, Chasing the Chaos of Mental Illness is an Amazon bestseller. She is a five-time Emmy award winning journalist and hosts the podcast Beyond Well, a program for people interested in learning more about our interior lives, emotional health and self-care. Co-hosts are Dr. Jim Polo and Dr. Jenna LeJeune


Mar 19, 2019

I've been talking to experts about mental health, psychology and wellness for more than a decade. But, when I finally met Dr. Brian Goff and Dr. Jenna LeJeune, I knew they were my kind of people. 

In this episode of Beyond Well, Brian and Jenna talk with Sheila Hamilton about their careers, and what brought them to be interested in a particular type of therapy, Acceptance and Commitment Therapy. 

Dr. LeJeune: "So much of the conversation around psychological suffering is pathologizing it. If you are experiencing pain, you've got to fix it. But if you are experiencing pain, that doesn't mean something is wrong with you. We have these tools that can help you develop psychological flexibility to deal more effectively with pain in the moment of your suffering." 

Dr. Brian Goff: "I don't want people to fix themselves. I want someone to listen to this and feel like they're in good company with other humans and learn to reduce the pain they feel about their pain. How can I experience it in a way that even when my boat is taking on water, or is so scuffed up, or battered by the seas, I can still learn to sail."